Ron Heifetz is a world-renown professor, author, and authority on the topic of leadership. One of his books, “Leadership on the Line: Staying Alive through the Dangers of Change,” has been instrumental to Chanda’s approach to leadership. Chanda connected with Ron to talk about the self-care practices leaders need to establish, the disparities and opportunities that crises reveal, and the work white people need to do in order to pursue racial justice.